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Vertical stick welding (3G): uphill technique without sagging

Free guide · The Welder's Forge · updated September 2026

Vertical, gravity pulls on the weld pool the whole time. If you use the flat-position current, the metal sags, forms drips and leaves undercut at the edges. The fix is a smaller, better-controlled pool: less current, a short arc and the right motion.

Quick answer

Lower the current 10 to 15% from the flat position, weld uphill with the rod tilted slightly upward, run the root with a straight bead and the following passes with a triangle or half-moon weave, pausing at the edges. Use an all-position rod (E6013 or E7018).

Why the pool sags

The weld pool is liquid metal. The bigger and hotter it is, the more it weighs and the longer it takes to freeze. In the flat position the plate holds the pool. Vertical, only surface tension and fast freezing hold it. Anything that makes the pool bigger (high current, long arc, slow travel, wide weave) makes the sag worse.

How much to lower the current

RodFlat positionReductionVertical starting point
5/64 in (2.0 mm)45–70 A10 to 15%about 38–63 A
3/32 in (2.4 mm)60–90 A10 to 15%about 51–81 A
1/8 in (3.2 mm)90–130 A10 to 15%about 77–117 A
5/32 in (4.0 mm)130–180 A10 to 15%about 110–162 A

Table 3.2 of the e-book The Welder's Forge. The last column applies the reduction to the flat-position values. Starting point: confirm with the rod package or the WPS.

In practice: if you weld well flat with a 3/32 in rod at 80 A, begin the vertical at 68–72 A and fine-tune on a scrap. The signs of too much and too little current are in the stick welding amperage chart.

Uphill or downhill?

The technique, step by step

  1. Pick the right rod. E6013 and E7018 weld in all positions. The E7024 will not do: it is flat and horizontal only.
  2. Lower the current following the chart.
  3. Set the angles. From the side, the rod is square to the joint (90° on a butt, 45° on a fillet). From the front, tilt 5 to 15° in the direction of travel, which means pointing slightly up.
  4. Short arc: about the diameter of the rod core.
  5. Straight root bead, with no weave: a narrow bead with good penetration.
  6. Following passes with a triangle or half-moon weave, with a quick pause at each edge to fill it. Without the pause you get undercut.
  7. Remove all the slag with the chipping hammer and wire brush before the next pass.

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Practice on scrap, not on the project

Clamp two scraps in a T on the vertical, at chest height, and run short beads of 4 to 6 in (10 to 15 cm). Chip the slag and look: full edges and even ripples mean the current and the pause are right. Adjust in 5 A steps.

The most common vertical mistakes

If the bead already came out with undercut, slag inclusion or lack of fusion, the full diagnosis is in common welding defects and how to fix them.

Overhead stick welding

Overhead, gravity works straight against you. The rules are the same, only tighter: reduced current (10 to 15% lower on rods up to 5/32 in), a very short arc and small beads. Keep any weave small, with a pause at the edges, or run stringer beads (no weave). Several narrow beads beat one wide one.

PPE overhead

Spatter and slag fall toward you. Wear leather sleeves and a leather apron or jacket, a closed collar, a cap under the helmet and no open pockets or cuffs where a spark can lodge. Keep hot work rules in mind: clear flammables within 35 ft (11 m) and watch for fire for at least 30 minutes afterward (longer if your site rules or NFPA 51B call for it).

Frequently asked questions

How much should I lower the current for vertical welding?
About 10 to 15% from the flat position on 5/64 to 5/32 in (2.0 to 4.0 mm) rods (Table 3.2 of the e-book). On 3/16 in (4.8 mm) rods the reduction is 15 to 20%.
Is it better to weld vertical uphill or downhill?
With stick on medium and thick plate, uphill: it gives more penetration. Downhill is faster and penetrates less, useful on thin sheet.
Which rod should I use for vertical welding?
An all-position rod such as the E6013 (easier) or the E7018. Avoid the E7024, which is flat and horizontal only.
Why does my vertical weld have undercut at the edges?
Usually too much current, fast travel or a weave with no pause at the edges. Lower the current and hold a fraction of a second at each edge.

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